00:16:35 Lynda Baker (She, Her): Hello from the Pacific Northwest USA (Washington State) 00:16:38 Sue Mitten (she/her): zooming in from Saskatchewan, Canada 00:16:45 ๐Ÿ–– Elise Keith: ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š About This Session ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š โฐ 75 minutes ๐Ÿ”—๐Ÿ”— Resources This series & related course: https://school.lucidmeetings.com/p/10-science-rules-meetings Groupmap https://join.groupmap.com/997-199-701 โœ”๏ธ Recoding? Yes. Purpose: To discover ways we can use leadership to support more meaningful meetings Intended Outcomes: - Learn how leaders of elite teams support those working at the limits of human potential. - Explore our own beliefs and assumptions about what it means to lead, and how that shows up in meetings. - Create a set of tips & takeaways you can explore with your team. - Get Inspired to lead bold, beautiful meetings that help your teams reach levels of performance that bring pride and joy to your work. Today's Leaders ๐Ÿ”ฎ Featured Guests: Jurgen Heitman & Andy Walshe ๐Ÿ–– Host/Tech Help: Elise Keith And You! ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š 00:18:17 ๐Ÿ–– Elise Keith: ๐Ÿ“‹ Our Plan ======================= - Intro and Setup - Fishbowl (20 minutes) - Small Group Sensemaking (8 min) - Collaborative Interviews - Closing BLUF (Last 5 min) 00:19:26 ๐Ÿ–– Elise Keith: ๐Ÿ”—๐Ÿ”— GroupMap Link https://join.groupmap.com/997-199-701 00:20:41 Christopher Lortie: Hello Joe!! 00:25:01 ๐Ÿ–– Elise Keith: Quick note: go ahead an turn off your camera for the moment 00:26:35 Molood Ceccarelli: Wow my first teaching experience as an adult was teaching a class of 7-y/o boys! They made me cry ๐Ÿ˜‚ 00:27:00 Joe: @Chris, good to see you! 00:28:49 โค๏ธ: Joined late - will we get replay? 00:29:15 Joe: Yes, the recording will be available after the session. 00:37:09 Sue Mitten (she/her): makes me think of how quickly a vaccine has ben developed for COVID, interconnection, communication, 00:37:29 Joe: @Sue, very true! 00:37:44 Christopher Lortie: Hi Jurgen, when is it ok to go slow? 00:38:00 Christopher Lortie: Hi Andy, when do you still spitball it or let others in the team try that? 00:38:23 Christopher Lortie: How do you balance perceived efficiency versus other serendipitous outcomes? 00:39:42 Jack Cerva: Howdy from Bangkok, sorry to be late. 00:40:05 Joe: @Jack, Welcome! 00:41:12 ๐Ÿ–– Elise Keith: ๐Ÿ”—๐Ÿ”— GroupMap Link https://join.groupmap.com/997-199-701 00:42:01 ๐Ÿ–– Elise Keith: ๐Ÿ’ก Instructions for the Breakout ======================== Your mission: \ Select 3 questions/topics for our group discussion. Process: First, introduce yourselves and each share: - 1 thing you found fascinating - 1 question you had Then, work together to select your questions/topics and select one person to speak for the group. โฐ 10 minutes ======================== 00:43:10 T. Elbourne: Sorry, I am in listen mode as I am in another meeting. 00:53:12 Lynda Baker (She, Her): Way too short!!! 00:54:00 Christopher Lortie: One of our Qs was how to bring those big principles like authenticity down to the meeting level? 00:54:09 Christopher Lortie: How do you address hierarchies? 00:54:24 Christopher Lortie: How do you get team members to share their inspirations? 00:54:29 Sue Mitten (she/her): thanks chris! 00:54:42 Lynda Baker (She, Her): Implications for new online meetings and work? 00:54:45 ๐Ÿ–– Elise Keith: And if you all have perspectives on this, feel free to share in chat! 00:54:48 Christopher Lortie: Keith, thanks for the book recommendation!! 00:56:04 Joe Allen: @Chris, humans are actually very good at seeing through inauthenticity. So, in meetings, being authentic should feel both natural and likely avoid creating conflict around "what do they really mean" and so forth. 00:57:06 Nancy Settle-Murphy: In breakout #6, our questions included: What is the ideal size of a team? An organization? 00:57:15 Joe Allen: @Chris, as for getting team members to share...there's both the meeting environment (e.g. psychological safety) and leader/attendee behavior. People need to encourage each other to participate, share ideas, etc. 00:58:54 Nancy Settle-Murphy: Breakout 6 - continued- How do we bring different teams from different organizations into alignment? What is the accountability of the team leader to uphold/reinforce hared norms, around meetings and other aspects of collaboration? How do we integrate younger people into positions of leadership, especially when we're going through a transition? 00:58:59 Joe Allen: @Nancy, in terms of meetings, the general suggested size is 5 to 7 for decision-making groups/teams. However, there's a caveat. A team/org should be as big as needed to address the problem/goal identified. The more complex the issue, often the more expertise, and the more individuals needed to tackle the problem. Larger teams, however, need more structure in their meetings to ensure participation, engagement, and positive outcomes. 01:00:19 Patty Brandmaier: @nancy - from my experience, the best teams hold themselves accountable and the team leader can help build the environment for thatโ€ฆthe importance of team norms of behavior ad common purpose are key 01:01:24 Lynda Baker (She, Her): How do we overcome the limitations of online work and meetings with the principles our speakers are sharing? 01:02:25 Patty Brandmaier: I think there is a balance on feedbackโ€ฆif everyone is always thinking of the feedback in short cycles the risk is that they are not focused on the work that has to be done. 01:04:11 Andrew Webster: Best source for social group sizes is Robin Dunbar's series of numbers. 01:05:07 Christopher Lortie: Do bigger groups split into pods work? 01:05:20 Christopher Lortie: Like the Zoom approach? 01:05:45 Brian Steinbrecher: Kevlar decided not to have any factories with more than 125 people since you canโ€™t know everyone beyond 125 โ€ฆ so they built a new factory next to the first one 01:06:14 Christopher Lortie: What is country X, Cuba? :) 01:06:29 Patty Brandmaier: ;-) 01:06:35 Enrico Teotti: What that part of McChrystal's JSOC? 01:06:43 Arnaud: From Team #1: Q1: how to move from a directive style of leadership to a leadership style that relies on influence? Q2: how do you know when to resist the urge to act (too fast) in a fast evolving situation? 01:06:48 Patty Brandmaier: @Enrico - yes 01:07:39 Lynda Baker (She, Her): What strategies did you employ for these team of 7000 online? Length of meetings? Ways of engagement??? 01:08:01 Brian Steinbrecher: seems expensive 01:08:26 Lynda Baker (She, Her): Do the listeners respond? How do you build relationship on line? 01:08:44 Patty Brandmaier: @Lyndaโ€ฆclear roles/rules of engagement, with bias toward people on the ground, length of meetings 90m minutes via phone/secure video teleconferencingโ€ฆ 01:08:50 Christopher Lortie: Hi John!! Nice to see you again. 01:08:52 Lynda Baker (She, Her): What percent of those voices did you hear? 01:09:17 Enrico Teotti: did they have non verbal feedback? ;) 01:09:19 Patty Brandmaier: @Lynda - chat rooms available for side bar conversations 01:10:05 Christopher Lortie: Thanks Jurgen! 01:10:22 Brian Steinbrecher: 7500 x 1.5 = 5.4 person years / day 01:13:20 Patty Brandmaier: @Brian - expensive in terms of man-hours, but the value added far exceeded and was exponential increasing every day as this meeting turned the dynamic of the war in the US/allied favor and saved livesโ€ฆ 01:15:50 Joe Allen: @Chris, check out my Signal Provision of Emotion paper...and let's chat. :) 01:16:05 Christopher Lortie: Super!! 01:17:55 Christopher Lortie: Thanks everyone, here is the paper Joe mentioned. https://asu.pure.elsevier.com/en/publications/the-signal-provision-of-emotion-using-emotions-to-enhance-reliabi 01:18:09 Christopher Lortie: Thank you team, I have another meeting. All the best. 01:18:26 Patty Brandmaier: Thank you @Chris and @Joe 01:18:57 Enrico Teotti: I feel some might enjoy some interviews I did about how USMC, Navy and Army war veterans (that now work in tech) used after action reviews, debriefings and link with Agile Retrospectives: https://thisisretrospectivefacilitation.com/category/military/ 01:19:08 Andrew Webster: It feels like we're talking about leadership in crisis. But crises are typically the outcome of many non-crisis moments. How can we cause leaders to expand their responsibility for consequences to include the longer-term and wider impact "externalities"? 01:19:32 Patty Brandmaier: Thank you, Andrew! All references are great! 01:20:03 John Keith - Host: The evolution of Zoom / online meetings toward a more personal experience feels like it improves real and perceived authenticity. 01:20:49 Joe Allen: @John, completely agree. Virtual meetings introduce some new opportunities and challenges to our meetings. 01:21:02 Lynda Baker (She, Her): MAKING learning a Good Thing! 01:22:18 daniel hiltz: One Mission by Chris Fussell of the McChrystal group. Great treatment of applying these principles in business environments. 01:23:09 Nancy Settle-Murphy: Interesting piece re: authenticity on Zoom, and how genders might present differently - https://getpocket.com/explore/item/on-zoom-men-don-t-like-feeling-watched-and-judged-but-women-are-used-to-it?utm_source=linkedinsynd&utm_medium=social 01:23:20 Patty Brandmaier: @Nancy - thank you! 01:24:48 Lynda Baker (She, Her): This has been awesome! 01:24:58 Amy Schlotthauer (she/her): I have learned so much today - thank you all 01:25:04 soraya: this is great. my apology that my video and voice does not work at the moment, I believe out IT had put a block. However, I am listening and there are so much valuable information I am learning. please continue on these meeting and let us know when will be the next one. thanks so much. 01:25:08 Nancy Settle-Murphy: https://www.guidedinsights.com/how-video-meetings-mess-with-your-head-and-how-to-make-it-better/ 01:25:12 Lynda Baker (She, Her): Will you send us announcement when book comes out please? 01:26:11 Patty Brandmaier: That is great @joe and would love bite-sized take aways and advice from what you are writing! 01:26:11 ๐Ÿ–– Elise Keith: https://info.lucidmeetings.com/2021-science-practice-meetings-update 01:26:17 Nancy Settle-Murphy: Or swap out asynch communications for constant same-time communications. Not every conversation requires a same-time meeting 01:26:19 Joe Allen: https://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-111979367X,descCd-buy.html 01:26:39 Joe Allen: Link to book. Though not yet available (February 2021) 01:26:59 ๐Ÿ–– Elise Keith: ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ…๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒฝ Harvest ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ…๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒฝ BLUF: Bottom Line Up Front What's one thing you feel people who aren't here should know? ๐Ÿ‘‹ Signal that you'd like to speak OR ๐Ÿ’ฌ Type in chat ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ…๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒฝ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ…๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒฝ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ…๐ŸŒพ๐ŸŒฝ๐Ÿ 01:27:21 soraya: you are absolutely right about zoom fatigue. it is more like performing during zoom meeting 01:27:31 Sue Mitten (she/her): Experiment 01:27:47 Nancy Settle-Murphy: Authenticity (or lack thereof) is obvious even when we're leading remotely 01:28:08 Lynda Baker (She, Her): Leadership requires you understand your strengths and where you need to develop and get serious about develop that skill or competency 01:28:46 Amy Schlotthauer (she/her): Be true to your own personality to be a strong leader 01:29:24 Lynda Baker (She, Her): You can actually build a team of 7000 people (if you are Jurgen) 01:29:26 Sue Mitten (she/her): Focus on building relationships 01:29:54 Lynda Baker (She, Her): 01:31:21 Lynda Baker (She, Her): Good leaders focus on process! 01:31:33 Patty Brandmaier: Yes @Lynda! 01:31:41 Sioux Redwood: Making decisions with only 50% of the information that you would normally use to make decisions. 01:31:48 ๐Ÿ–– Elise Keith: ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š What to Expect ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š Previous events and the background research: https://school.lucidmeetings.com/p/10-science-rules-meetings Next event January 7: How to Keep Groups on Track with Grace https://info.lucidmeetings.com/event-matt-abrahams โœ‰๏ธ Email with: - The edited recoding - Chat and audio transcripts ๐Ÿšฆ We Love Feedback! Lucid: https://lucidmeetings.typeform.com/to/irsadm ================================= 01:31:51 Sue Mitten (she/her): Another fabulous session , thanks ! 01:31:52 Nancy Settle-Murphy: Thank you, Jurgen, Andy, Elise, John s., and breakout group #6 - Tom, Louis, Miguel, and John 01:32:16 Andrew Webster: Thank you all! Wonderful work. 01:32:40 Angus Burnett: Thanks everyone! Enjoy the rest of your day. 01:32:44 ๐Ÿ”ฎ Andy Walshe: Thank you everyone. Loved the conversation 01:32:45 soraya: thank you so much, we love this. keep it up with more meeting. 01:32:46 David Clarke: Thank you Andy, Jurgen, Elise and everyone else - Outstanding session 01:32:54 Jack Cerva: Thanks ! Learning virtual meetings, great to hear the insights. 01:32:56 Jack Thomas Parkes: Thanks everyone :) 01:32:58 Brian Steinbrecher: happy holidays to all 01:32:59 Sioux Redwood: Thank you for an excellent time 01:33:07 Heather: outstanding. thank you 01:33:09 Nancy Settle-Murphy: Thanks Joe! 01:33:13 T. Elbourne: Bye